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Postby smudge » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:51 pm

I anybody here have experience In using a handwinch only managed to get landrover stuck & thought it would be a good idea for moving stuck trees as well see a 4 ton winch on ebay for £36 looks quite good,
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Re: hand winch

Postby SimonFisher » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:57 pm

Can you post a link?
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Re: hand winch

Postby smudge » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:19 pm

Sorry not very clever on computers but go on ebay and put item number 300547857798 & you should get it cheers,
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Re: hand winch

Postby Wendelspanswick » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:28 pm

I have had one for about 30 years, used to use it for lifting engines out of my cars from the roof beam overhead. As a cheap bit of kit they are ok, you can pick them up for about £20 now (which is about what I paid for mine 30 years ago!). They are OK on pulling or raising but rubbish on lowering as you have to manually move the catch on each stroke.
You would need a strop to pull a Landrover out as the pull is only about 3ft on 2:1 or 6ft on 1:1.
I wouldn't use one for lifting now as I like to think I have more sense than when I was a teenager but for pulling they suffice.
I now have a Tirfor winch which is a lot better piece of kit, readily available second hand and designed for lifting, not just pulling. It comes with 20m of steel cable and by flicking a lever will lower a load as easily as it lifted it.
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Re: hand winch

Postby Dexter's Shed » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:31 pm

smudge wrote:Sorry not very clever on computers but go on ebay and put item number 300547857798 & you should get it cheers,


for future reference smudge, on any page you want to link to
on the very top of page, you'll see the page address line, look up now, at top of this page you'll see http://www.swog.org etc etc
left click your mouse on that, it'll turn blue, now right click and hit the copy option, then in the new post your writing, click the right mouse buttom and choose the paste option, it'll paste the link

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300547857798? ... 26_rdc%3D1


have a nice day :D
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Re: hand winch

Postby oldclaypaws » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:34 pm

There's a distinct difference between small hand winches designed for pulling vehicles horizontally on wheels and proper wire rope winches designed for pulling hung up or felled trees. You could push a 4 ton vehicle by hand along a road on your own, could you move a 4 ton tree? - Of course not, its totally different applications. The former will cost £30 for a 2500 kg 'pull' and isnt for pulling trees, it would snap. A proper 3 or 4 Ton wire rope winch will use a 16mm (2/3rd inch) massive heavy wire rope and could actually lift the tree. A decent one will set you back £300-£600, and on top of that you need slings and snatch blocks, you don't pull in a direct line with the tree. All winching with a 3 or 4 ton load is something that's potentially as hazardous as a chainsaw. If something snaps and flies back at you with that tension, you could be decapitated or cut in half by the wire, so its not something to be attempted without fully researching all the right kit and techniques. 12V vehicle winches are another option for fitting on the back of a large pickup or tractor. This lot have all the variants and other winching bits and bobs;

http://www.safetyliftingear.com/categories/winching---4x4-off-road/vehicle-winches

Good forestry technique and safety advice guide here;

http://www.forestry.gov.uk/pdf/fctg001.pdf/$FILE/fctg001.pdf
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Re: hand winch

Postby Dexter's Shed » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:50 pm

smudge wrote:I anybody here have experience In using a handwinch only managed to get landrover stuck & thought it would be a good idea for moving stuck trees as well see a 4 ton winch on ebay for £36 looks quite good,


here's one being used on a stuck tree, so you can see it'll do that job, of course it'll probably pull a stuck landie, as long as you have a good solid tree nearby :)

http://youtu.be/5WcFItsN_JU

I also have a tirfor winch, cost over £100 and it's a big solid bit of kit, will pull almost anything over

http://youtu.be/Tzng-WwQjTc
(excuse the couple of bits of swearing in the film)

you'll notice it has a longer handle, makes it much easier to use, although I suppose you could make similar for the cheaper,smaller winch
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Re: hand winch

Postby Dexter's Shed » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:54 pm

oldclaypaws wrote:

The former will cost £30 for a 2500 kg 'pull' and isnt for pulling trees, it would snap.

you don't pull in a direct line with the tree.


that first film is a professional tree surgeon friend of ours, maybe no one told him his one would snap, also pulling in a straight line :lol:
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Re: hand winch

Postby oldclaypaws » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:58 pm

Thats a twig, if he'd had his weetabix he could have pulled it out by hand. Reckon it weighs about 200kg max.
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