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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 10:44:25 +0000</pubDate>

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<title>Crispin Rogers on "Clarke Forest Log Jack"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1093#post-6524</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Crispin Rogers</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I have had a Oregon Log Jaw for many years and have recently aquired a Logrite Loglifter. I have also used a Timberjack supplied by Northern Tools. I am most suprised at some of the comments I have read, as such tools know as Timberjacks or Loglifters have been around for a very long time!!!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I would make the following comments. Prices range from about £30.00 upwards. Of such tools currently on the market The Northern Tools Timberjack has a very robust wooden handle but although the cheapest is far too heavy. Next up in price would be the Westfalia Tree Trunk Lifter at £39.99 followed by the Clark Forest Jack. Top of the range is the Logrite Log Lifter at around £150.00.  On both the Northern Tools Timberjack and the Logrite Log Lifter the the 'lifter' part can be removed and the tool can be used as a cant hook. The shaft of the Logrite is made aluminium and is fairly light weight, but very strong, and this is reflected in the price.
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<title>Rich on "Trespassers, poachers and horses"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1121#post-6523</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;That's a good idea, I think Toby who posts on the board has a nice hand winding set up he'll probably be able to give you some advice.  The one thing I'm not so keen on is all the wire in the fence, if keeping people out is your objective then yeah it's a good thing as like you say all the brambles and undergrowth cover it making them really really  difficult to get over.  I can't help but think of the time when you want to replace it.  Makes using a chainsaw or a billhook really difficult.
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<title>austino on "Trespassers, poachers and horses"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1121#post-6522</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 05:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>austino</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I m in the process of havinga chestnut paling machine made. I tried for a longh time to find one but to no avail so am having one built using the youtube footage of one in action for reference. Whilst chestnut paling doesn,t look particularly dificult to get past it actualy is quite tricky. It soon can be masked by brambles etc growing over it. The beauty for me is other than the cost of the wire I can produce fencing at no cost and use some of my plentiful chestnut. Other woodland owners will be able to use it and see it as an investment for me and other woodland owners to increase security at no cost.
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<title>bat on "Trespassers, poachers and horses"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1121#post-6521</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bat</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I should have said that I don't keep anything worth stealing there (well, not any more - the last thing worth stealing (a post) was stolen. I seem to be a bit more of a laissez faire owner than most but I have checked with Garry the Beachtree and the insurance doesn't specify that you have to keep walkers out and I can't really bar everyone - someone owns the hunting rights, so he has to get in!
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<title>wrekin on "Trespassers, poachers and horses"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1121#post-6520</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>wrekin</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I'd echo the point about always escorting people off your land, with a reason if they try to argue they're not doing any harm: dog walking disturbs sensitive animals even by scent, and everyone else is at risk due to tree felling so for liability reasons they need to stay away unless specifically invited. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I think there are three broad classes of trespassers: casual walkers (including dog walkers), youths, and criminals. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Most of the walkers will be stopped by a high fence that they would have to damage to cross since they're not prepared to get caught doing that. If they feel there's some kind of right of way or established public use of the wood they might be more willing to push that a bit. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The youths are bored and/or looking for somewhere quiet to have a McDonalds, a bottle of cider from Asda, and a quick fumble with their boy/girlfriend away from adults. Fences again complicate things for them, and make it more likely they'll go nosing around on someone else's land instead. In particular, fences can make it harder to get out in a hurry and so make people more on edge about running into an angry landowner and not being able to get away quickly.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The criminals won't be stopped by physical barriers if they perceive the gain from stealing or fly tipping or whatever to be sufficiently large. (They use JCBs to steal ATM machines from banks after all!) Making casual trespass harder will help, in the cases where it's really preparation for coming back later with a van.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If people are using 4x4 vehicles to push down fences or to go round gates, then nails hammered through planks of wood can stop them. You need to be careful to avoid getting pedestrian trespassers with that though otherwise the police will come after you instead.
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<title>Stephen1 on "Making bird boxes"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=297#post-6519</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 09:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Stephen1</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;A few copper nails will present no problems to the health of the tree at all - if I have to nail though I use aluminum ones, as they're a bit safer for any future chainsaw users - although obviously copper is better than steel!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If the branching pattern of the tree allows though I use strips of heavy duty butyl pond linner. These are attached to the box and knotted around the trunk and over one branch of the tree. I then tickle over the knot with a blow torch to stop it loosening over time. I've never had any problems with animals chewing these. They also are very uv stable - they are designed to be, plus during the summer they're in the shade of the woodland canopy. I have some of these butyl fixings still going strong at ten years old.
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<title>old oak on "Making bird boxes"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=297#post-6518</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>old oak</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;How do others fix their bird boxes to their trees? What about copper nails? Is the odd one OK or do they kill trees?
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<title>Exeldama on "Trespassers, poachers and horses"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1121#post-6517</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 23:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Exeldama</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;code&#62;Your paranoid&#60;/code&#62;.... only kidding but most people are full of waffle and bluff. i doubt anything woud happen. However it never hurts to try and sit down over a cup of tea (arsenic) assuming its a persitent person. Some people just have very empty lives and genuinley have very little else to do but winge about others...think of him as a sad little fellow, unhappy with his lot. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I dot hink the brash is a good idea, its great for the wildlife, friendly to our enviroment looks ok and costs nil... putting up fences may encourage them to be &#60;code&#62;dusted up&#60;/code&#62;..you cant do much to brash.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There is also the option of creating a local myth about spectres in the wood, but you might get mistaken for such a thing and have some ghost hunter persuing you with a sharpened stake..
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<title>Max on "Muddy Track"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1108#post-6516</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 22:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Thanks Toby, the big problem with our track is the deep ruts. I am hoping that the logs and brash will last till we get some dry weather and then I think it will be hardcore and crusher run. Any more suggestions would be welcomed.
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<title>SteveA on "Hired gun"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1124#post-6515</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 21:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>SteveA</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Thought the topic title sounded &#34;dangerous&#34;....&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;im not actually dangerous at all&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Im Steve and am currently located in Dartford and am a keen shooter and am offering a vermin cull/service in essex and kent (free... i know..... not often you see that nowdays!)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;i have a .22 pcp air rifel at the legal 12 ft lbs limit and can take a rabbit with a humain shot at up to 50 yards. it is silenced and birds dont even know its been fired till the pellet hits!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;rabbits ,corvids (magpies/crows) ,squrils (things that take song bird eggs and chicks and damage trees/plants)&#60;br /&#62;
also woodpigeons and collared doves but in woodlands these tend not to be pests!&#60;br /&#62;
(Foxes are too large for this gun!)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;fields and wooded areas can be worked (not too thicker wood... im not as younge as i used to be)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;so if anyone is interested please send me a mesage&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Kind regards&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Steve&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;ooh forgot to say (quite important too) i respect life... i dont mame animals and do not take a shot if not 100% sure it will not be humain. i do not damage property and will speak with the land owner about borders/boundrys  and what quary they wish me to target.&#60;br /&#62;
i aim to leave the land as i find it (it is youre land afterall) and will keep and eye/report and findings after the outingh
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<title>Henrietta on "Trespassers, poachers and horses"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1121#post-6514</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Henrietta</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;We had a bit of trouble with locals when we first purchased the wood, they obviously didn't like the fact that they could no longer walk in it, not that it ever had a public right of way  One individual in his van, challenged us the first time we went to view it.  He said we weren't allowed in there.  I noticed he had some wood working tools in the back of the van.  After we bought the wood, he started spying on us from the lane.  Unfortunately we do have a lot of road boundary and can be seen in the vast majority of the wood.  He has continued spying on us for the last five years now, I really think he's got a problem.  We are in the process of building a shed and his surveillance has stepped up.  I have been building brashing hedges to shield us from the road somewhat.  I just hope we don't arrive one day to find a pile of ashes instead of a shed, or am I just being paranoid.
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<title>Steve Medlock on "Scottish Hutting Campaign"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1087#post-6513</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Steve Medlock</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;An unexpected purchase in the Tate Modern bookshop on Sunday was this excellent book, listed here (cheaper) on Amazon:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tiny-Homes-Shelter-Lloyd-Kahn/dp/0936070528/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#38;#38;qid=1328205998&#38;#38;sr=8-1&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tiny-Homes-Shelter-Lloyd-Kahn/dp/0936070528/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#38;#38;qid=1328205998&#38;#38;sr=8-1&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Made me think back to this thread....
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<title>bat on "Trespassers, poachers and horses"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1121#post-6512</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bat</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hello, my wood hasn't really got any fences or signs and is next to a pretty remote public car park. I have no qualms about walkers, having walked in it for many more years than I have owned it. The only trouble is with 4x4's knocking the last remaining fence down and driving through it. Anyhow, sending a few photos with number plates to the police and the relevant council officer (who put a few logs in the right places) seemed to sort that one.
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<title>DuncanB on "Trespassers, poachers and horses"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1121#post-6511</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>DuncanB</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Agree with the previous posts. Armed trespass is particularly worrying - and it (quite rightly) carries a substantial custodial sentence!&#60;br /&#62;
I find that good fencing and a polite, but firm approach helps. I have cameras to show if and where trespassing is going on - with the added bonus of some interesting wildlife shots (I got some great - if blurry shots of a midnight owl!), and they could, of course be used as evidence in a criminal conviction. These cameras have gone down in price - the one I originally had to ship from the US is now just under £120 on e-bay.&#60;br /&#62;
I have photographed some of the trespassers I have encountered on my land - but be warned, they really don't like being photographed, and there are some really nasty people out there!&#60;br /&#62;
Signs help too - I originally put a lot of effort into making signs up on boards and putting them onto posts - these all got pulled down! I then printed some colour signs on the computer, laminated them and stapled onto trees (cost: about 20p each), none of which have been touched!
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<title>Exeldama on "Trespassers, poachers and horses"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1121#post-6510</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Exeldama</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;My own take is to &#60;code&#62;challenge&#60;/code&#62; innocent loking or not. Make sure they know your getting registrations etc all the obvious stuff. Some people are just arrogant and think they can use but not contribute.... the locals ,. well some of them had the hump when the woods were sold because they had wandered through it for years . But they had never contributed in its upkeep and never had any rights to start with...... horse riders were the worst. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Poachers who are armed, you have to be careful . If they are present and armed its 999 and you MUST insist police arrive immediatley.... it is no diffrent to an armed person being in your garden....neither you nor police know their intentions much as you may assume...never accept &#60;code&#62;we will look into it&#60;/code&#62;, type attitude. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Hunts are just brainless idiots all be it smartly dressed and with enough cash to fund a horse etc..which isnt cheap. There is a law and they should be abiding by it , real drag hunts are unlikely to deliberatley tresspass and if it occurs regularily contact the hunt master by letter and lodge a complaint of criminal tresspass with police. (obviously the horses and hounds will cause damage to your tracks ,hedges etc).  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Best thing i guess is making access difficult (thus escape to). Make the official entrances lockable to vehicles and horses etc. Anyother possible &#60;code&#62;easy&#60;/code&#62; entry points stuff full of brash.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Im probably a bit bolder than the average person so its simply a matter of if they run into me, my message doesnt tend to be misunderstood. Be polite but if the message doesnt sink in be &#60;code&#62;firm&#60;/code&#62;. The last couple of times involved a teenager on his quad bike and two lads in their 20&#60;code&#62;s with lurchers. Just by chance i was carrying my shotgun (quite legitimatley), and i suspect it was a little disconcerting to see a guy suddenly appear out of the undergrowth and challenge them. Shotgun obviously unloaded amd broken barrelled. (clearly never use any form of firearms or tool&#60;/code&#62; as an implied threat.)  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I tend to go down the line of .&#34;im sure your a very nice person BUT i have had a bit of bother and frankly if i catch someone stealing or causing me bother blah de blah de blah...i dont mean you of course..ahhhmmm &#34;.&#60;br /&#62;
To be fair the teen was polite back and i understand wanting to have some fun on a quad bike..we have all been that age. The message was firm but he was a decent lad so got a pleasant response. The &#60;code&#62;lurcher boys&#60;/code&#62; ..well it didnt take a rocket scientist to work out their game so my message was a little more frank although not something you could take as a direct threat...just implied i would be &#60;code&#62;upset&#60;/code&#62; if i caught anyone running their dogs in my wood.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The problem is that these poeple dont get challenged enough. In part this is becausee people who own these woods may not feel so confident to do so. but if you appera weak these types will take advantage. They want an easy life same as everyone else so make a point of politely challenging them everytime, make yourself visible , if your scared be noisey, .. make sure you have your neighbours tell No`s then you have additional eyes and a bit of support.
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<title>Toby Allen on "Muddy Track"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1108#post-6509</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 21:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Toby Allen</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;We use the triangles left over from pointing stakes, which combined with the sawdust make very good temporary roads. Though like all brash or chip roads it eventually turns to mush.&#60;br /&#62;
You can have the top layer of sloppy compost mud scraped off, then have a firm surface left. It means you have to be a bit careful about using it in the wet but I've seen wood tracks like that last for years. You also want the top layer taking off before laying down any surfacing as it will just sink through the mud.
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<title>treebloke on "Trespassers, poachers and horses"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1121#post-6508</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 20:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>treebloke</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;We had a guy in our wood last week and all he was doing was sitting watching and listening, not causing any damage or problems but how do you know what their intentions are. We have a lot of kit there at the moment and just because they look and appear friendly its not alweays the case. There are no ROW. I doubt he would like it if I turned up in his back garden and got the kelly kettle out.
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<title>graham on "Diamond jubilee trees - hardly local !"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1123#post-6507</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 20:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>graham</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I tend not to take much notice of these sort of things but I saw an item on the BBC website about this offer of a &#34;jubilee oak&#34; and reading on I see that these are raised from acorns from a tree on &#34;a royal estate&#34; (http://woodlandtrustshop.com/jubilee-trees/royal-oak-sapling)&#60;br /&#62;
And there am I thinking that using local clones was the most desirable - and having planted over 50 acorns in the autumn to help bulk up the trees here - and there are these spreading their genes across the country willy-nilly.&#60;br /&#62;
Actually I think it's appalling...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;graham
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<title>Bart85 on "Part-time student looking for work"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1122#post-6506</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 20:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Bart85</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hello&#60;br /&#62;
I am part-time Forestry and Woodland Management student at Plumpton College, East Sussex.&#60;br /&#62;
I am looking for work which would help me support myself as I am paying my own tuition fee.&#60;br /&#62;
I an NPTC qualified (CS30, CS31) and very keen to work.&#60;br /&#62;
I live about 5 minutes from Uckfield.
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<title>tracy on "Trespassers, poachers and horses"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1121#post-6505</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>tracy</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;We have some owners who are having difficulty with trespassers. Not just your ordinary walkers, but hunts, horses and poachers. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I know that fencing in the land, KEEP OUT signs etc can give some help, but I suspect not much. Any suggestions to help? I guess that poachers are armed trespass and the police should take this seriously....?
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<title>Nigel L on "Woodtuning Lathe for sale"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1088#post-6504</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Nigel L</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Now sold
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<title>Richard Fawcett on "Wanted Chestnut Rods between 1" and 1.5" diameter"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1120#post-6503</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Richard Fawcett</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I am wanting to make a yurt or several and would like to make it from chestnut rods.  If anyone has a chestnut coppice that has been cut about four or five years ago I think it would be about the right size.  The lengths would be 6'6&#34; for the walls and about 8' for the roof  (although I would need  to check these).  Ideally I would like to cut It myself.  Has anyone  made a bentwood yurt? suggestions appreciated.  Thanks, Richard.&#60;br /&#62;
Oh,  I am between Petworth and Horsham, West Sussex.
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<title>The Barrowers on "Looking for a wood to film a music video in"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1119#post-6502</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>The Barrowers</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Ryan   am in the wood this weekend if its not icy,  are you having difficulty contacting or not received the email&#60;/p&#62;
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<title>Stephen1 on "Hey Folks"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 09:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi Skund&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Medlars are great - definitely try them. They are very shade tolerant as a tree, but obviously will fruit much better the more light they have. Don't go for the vigorous pyrus rootstock with these - they are imperfectly compatible and problems can develop at the graft union as the tree gets older. I would suggest you go for a crataegous (hawthorn) rootstock which gives a hardier tree than the usual quince rootstocks - try The Agroforestry Research Trust (or Keepers nursery) for a supplier. As for variety I would go for &#34;Iranian&#34; this has a good flavour - not as good as &#34;Nottingham&#34;, which is the most popular in the U.K., but in the wetter west of the country they are less likely to split (because the fruit is a different shape where the flower was). Once you've got a decent sized tree established you can prune it and graft the cuttings on to established hawthorns in your hedges!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;A few years ago I got excited by the idea of cold tolerant citrus. Yes you can grow them outside. Yes you can  get them to fruit. No!!! you wouldn't want to eat any of them. I had one variety of satsuma and one hybrid orange/kumquat that were just, just about possible to eat, but nowhere approaching pleasant. Everything else I bought was just truly horrible. Even marmalade made from them was disgusting. I think it's worth bearing in mind that the optomistic descriptions you read about them are written by real enthusiasts... I don't want to be the one to put a downer on your citrus hopes, but really don't waste the time, money or enthusiasm on it. By all means grow a couple of the trifoliate orange (poncirus trifoliata) for the novelty, but cold tolerant citrus of any real value just haven't been bred yet that tolerate our climate. (By that I mean our maritime climate - there are some very cold tolerant citrus that are decently edible that can take winter temperatures much colder than we get here, but they have problems remaining properly dormant in our relatively warm winters, making them very suscetible to even light frosts. In terms of them setting fruit our summers are to cool for it to ripen propery. My point being that it's no good just looking at what minimum winter temperature a variety can take, that's all very well in a continental climate of very cold winters and hot summers - you need something that can take relativey warm winters and relatively cool summers.)&#60;br /&#62;
But if you do find a variety that works well please let me know!!!
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<title>Skund on "Hey Folks"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1103#post-6500</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Skund</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Thanks docsquid, very interesting stuff.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Soil differences is something I have looked at but in no great detail. Aside from noticing a few variations across the smallholding as a whole I've not looked at PH or different types of soil. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Aside from s. chestnut, crab apple and ash there's also a lot of hawthorn, some birch, a few beech, a hazel hedge and a couple of oaks so it seems like the local climate is fairly amenable to a variety of species.  Alder and willow (also present on site) are already planned for in the damper area of the woodland. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I hadn't realised that elder was quite so invasive so that's something to think about. I haven't seen any around so maybe elder doesn't do well round here anyway. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Out of necessity - the ground is quite rockey - we'll probably go for a more natural planting scheme. We're planning a couple of rides which will follow an old track and an existing footpath/animal track diagonally up the slope. We also have an easement under telephone wires to consider. So yes, we'll have deliberate rides, paths and probably glades (we would have anyway as wildlife/biodiversity is important to us all).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Woodbodger, thanks. We're definitely looking establish blackthorn on the holding (mmmm... sloe gin) although we don't know where  yet. Similarly, we're looking at rowan and actually have a couple on the land already.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Does anyone have any experience with growing medlars? It's something I've wanted to grow for a long time now. Oh, has anyone grown Japanese Bitter Orange before? Not native I know but I'd like to experiment with using the fruit and rootstock.
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<title>ben1 on "Hi looking for a woodland to rent"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1100#post-6499</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;hi tracy thank you
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<title>happybonzo on "waste oil as chainsaw lube?"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1116#post-6498</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>happybonzo</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@ &#34;wrekin&#34; - that explains a lot then:  I'll blame chainsaw oil spray next week at Slimming World  8-))
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<title>wrekin on "waste oil as chainsaw lube?"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1116#post-6497</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@happybonzo: the same carcinogens aren't present in new oil. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;One of the advantages given for using biodegradable chainsaw oil is that it's basically cooking oil rather than a mineral oil so liable to be better for you to breath in (if slightly fattening ;) )
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<title>Miles on "Looking for a wood to film a music video in"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1119#post-6496</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Miles</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Deja vu. I am sure I had a similar request (from someone else) a couple of years ago or so.
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<title>Miles on "waste oil as chainsaw lube?"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1116#post-6495</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Miles</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Ah. Wise words from woodbodger there which explains much, to me anyway who has much to learn it would seem. Ho hum.
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<title>tracy on "Looking for a wood to film a music video in"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1119#post-6494</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>tracy</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;and if you go ahead, we would love photos and little paragraph about it for our newsletter ;-)
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<title>The Barrowers on "Looking for a wood to film a music video in"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1119#post-6493</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>The Barrowers</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hello Ryan&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Woods nice this time of year in a strange way&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I have mailed you, respond and we will discuss&#60;/p&#62;
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<title>RyanJGrant on "Looking for a wood to film a music video in"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1119#post-6492</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 12:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>RyanJGrant</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This might be an unusual request, but it's always worth asking, right?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I’m a recently graduated video production student and I'm currently hunting for a wood to film a music video in the East Sussex area. Right now woodland has this incredible mixture of bleak and beautiful and I think they would be the perfect backdrop to this song:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://soundcloud.com/thecraveband/set-me-free/s-Tcf2d&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://soundcloud.com/thecraveband/set-me-free/s-Tcf2d&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There’s not really much money involved, what we have we’re going to put into camera equipment rental and lights for shooting to make the video look as great as possible.&#60;br /&#62;
While I know this is a really unusual thing to ask I figured it might be worth a shot just directly asking the forum if anyone would be up for us coming down and filming for a day in their wood?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;What I, the band and the friends I’m bringing in to help would like to film is a homage to 80’s b-movie horror with running through trees, some mist/smoke effects and some face makeup. The story of the video would be of the haunting of the band as they play from dusk till dawn.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If you would like to see what we've shot previously in our weekday jobs the directors showreel is a nice little example&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;a href=&#34;http://youtu.be/Z1H7oeKHp8k&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://youtu.be/Z1H7oeKHp8k&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It would be a group of about ten of us (including the band) and we would be filming for a day (we're currently really hoping to shoot on Sunday 12th Feb) from 9am and into the evening when it gets dark for our night time shots with the aim to wrap around 6 or 7pm. We’re all very professional and would try to cause as little disruption as we could.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It would be great if anyone was open and up for helping us out with a location for the day and I really do appreciate it's a bit of an unusual request.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thanks for your time and I look forward to hearing back if you might be able to help,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Ryan Grant&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:ryan.grantj@gmail.com&#34;&#62;ryan.grantj@gmail.com&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>woodbodger on "Hey Folks"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1103#post-6491</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>woodbodger</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;What about Mountain ash and a few Blackthorn.
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<title>woodbodger on "waste oil as chainsaw lube?"</title>
<link>http://www.swog.org.uk/forum/topic.php?id=1116#post-6490</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>woodbodger</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;My experience over 40 years now is that specific chain oil is a must with its sticky property's on blades of over 24 inches under that as long as you use something it doesn't seem a problem. The biggest cause of damage to the blade is jamming in the wedge of a tree that you are cutting; over time this will cause the groove down the blade to subtly open out and the saw will no longer cut so well.
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